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  1. I didn't boil the HME. I knew that much, and probably should have done the 5 minutes of research about not boiling hops on their own. I did simply create hop tea and add HME once it cooled. Looks like I learned by experimenting because my curiosity and go for it attitude got the best of me. Luckily, it's not THAT horrible (though I'm not eager to share it with anyone), as I like strong flavors, but hop tea infused weissbier wasn't really the goal. Haha! Definitely would have been better without it, I'm sure. I'm curious to see if it will change much with more conditioning time, but I have my doubts. I suppose the sour/tart is from the hop tea. I think you're right that it wasn't infected, as there wasn't anything to suggest that is the case. I actually think it probably would have come out perfectly after all my close monitoring of temperature and cleanliness had I just went straight HME like everyone always suggests you do for the first few batches. Again, as usual, my curiosity got the better of me. I have a Long Play IPA HME that came with one of my LBK kits, so I'll just do that one straight or dry hop at the end of fermentation as you've suggested. From there, I'm planning a batch of mead at the same time, but will probably not use one of my two LBKs for that. I am very interested in starting another weiss with your suggestions here, as I tend to like wheats. I'm two batches in and both went south somewhere, but I'm not discouraged! Thanks so much for your insight!
  2. My first attempt at brewing left a lot to be desired. The American Lager fame out horrendous, though I have been letting a few bottles age out of curiosity, and the last one I tasted was slightly better than I remember, but still seems off. My second batch I controlled the temperature much better during fermentation, was extra clean. I used a standard Weissbier refill and boiled 1 ounce of Cascade hops for 5 minutes before adding the HME to make the wort, hoping for a slight citrusy touch from the hops (they were given to me, didn't want to waste them). Bottle conditioned for 4 weeks, and just tried my first bottle. It's drinkable, has a slight molasses smell, and a little bit of sourness to it. Not flavored that much like a wheat. Is that sourness normal? Did something sneak into my brew despite my extreme attempts at sanitation. Will it condition out more? Thing is I'm a fan of sours, lambics, gosse. Even recently returned from a trip to Europe where I tried some great beers in Belgium. Doesn't stack to those flavors at all, but I'm not particularly put off by a bit of sour. I'll let it age awhile more before trying another bottle. Time will tell. I wonder though if something did sneak in, does that mean my LBK might be difficult to use for standard recipes now? I read that when you brew sours intentionally, it's best to not reuse the gear for standard recipes? Either way. At least it's drinkable this time. Next up is a Long Play IPA, and I plan to do it straight with no additions.
  3. Thank you again Rick and everyone for your input and friendliness. I've been hesitant about my second batch, but finally pulled the trigger today since I can be home for the first few days to monitor temperatures. I've opted to use a stick on thermometer on the LBK placed inside a cooler. I have a stash of bottles in hopes that I can control the temperature. Still quite cold here, but with any luck, I can add warm water bottles to the cooler if it cools too much or cold water bottles to the cooler if it heats up too much. My first batch is still conditioning, though the cold probably means it hasn't really changed much if at all. Leaving it until Spring or Summer before I even bother with it again. Before I know it, California heat will coming in. It seemed to go much smoother this time around from start to finish! Excited to hopefully have much better results this go around. Have one more can of HME on hand and now I own two LBKs, so maybe I'll do that one shortly.
  4. Been awhile now, and tried my beer again just out of curiosity. Didn't taste much, if any, better, but the temperature in the house may not be ideal either. Gonna leave this batch alone for several months and move on to a new one. Can't get worse! Haha. Picked up a second full kit real cheap, so might even try two at once. I am worried about temperatures. Getting cooler lately and our home doesn't really get heated and likes to stay cold. Bought a couple stick on thermometers to watch it, waiting on those to get started, but not totally sure how I'd warm the lbk if it's too cold for good fermenting. Might be fine, though, seeing as the wort usually warmer than ambient temperature if I understand correctly. Thank you all again for the warm welcome and information and encouragements. Lots to learn still!
  5. Thank you all so much for the well wishes and input. I admit, I felt like my questions were pretty dumb, but you've all been super nice, and I really appreciate the welcoming attitude at these forums! This seems like a great community to crack a beer open with! Despite not being that impressed with initial results, I'm definitely not discouraged from continuing. I love beer, and I believe I could get pretty good at brewing with some time and building my knowledge. Per your suggestions, I will age it much longer, at least two weeks before I crack open another bottle, and then likely much longer after that for the last 10 bottles. I'll just have to get more bottles for my next batch! Is there a shelf life I should be aware of while storing in a dark closet? It will remain fairly cold through the winter as we don't have HVAC in our apartment and it's a 100-year-old building, and it is completely dark. Does it make sense to move to a fridge if it gets over 70 degrees? Very excited to start in this hobby!
  6. Yes, I definitely pitched the included yeast, and it was obvious that it was having a reaction during the first few days of fermentation (after that point, I put it out of my mind and left it to do it's thing). I tasted the wort, which I had added the booster into prior to the boil, so it was definitely sweeter than it is now. That much is true, but the smell/taste was similar still. Seemed like it to me, but of course I'm saying that with tasting quite a bit apart. Not great flavor whatsoever, but the LME wasn't expired, and I only had it sitting around a few days before brewing. I suppose it could have been stored poorly prior to receiving it (I bought it on Groupon, so who knows how it was handled before I received)? I was expecting more of a PBR, but it's really nothing like that at all. Has a rather strong flavor to it in my opinion. I understand conditioning should go longer. I'll definitely give it the benefit of the doubt and let the rest condition a couple more weeks and refrigerate a few days before trying it again. Too eager, for sure. I bought a Bavarian Weissbeer LME and may do some additions, so looking forward to the next batch. Thank you for your input!
  7. Got my first kit, and it came with American Lager LME and a booster. I noticed that the wort didn't smell all that great when I was preparing it. Figured it would change as it fermented, maybe LME just smells bad. I let it ferment for 2 weeks, but it didn't seem ready. Taste was exactly the same as the smell (not very good). Waited another week before bottling, and then let it condition for 2 weeks. Planning to let the rest condition longer, but figured I may as well try one out to see if carbonation worked (it did) and if the taste was any different. It wasn't. it tasted almost exactly the same way it smelled when preparing and during my first test. The smell/taste is almost a little on the umomi end... like a beef boullin or something? I suppose my questions are this: 1. What is the American Lager LME really supposed to taste/smell like really? I was expecting something akin to Sam Adams, maybe more like PBR or another cheaper beer. I'm no beer snob, but this stuff is hard to drink with any amount of pleasure. Not flat out undrinkable, but I'd rather just drink a PBR. 2. Should the LME/wort smell the same way the final product would smell/taste? Thanks for any input.