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45 minutes ago, Nickfixit said:

Re AHBS - what is best legal way to ship?

 

I can see drop off as the only really legal way unless you have a license to ship - but then it is not homebrew (see license requirements),  but locations are limited. If they had a dropoff office in each state that might be OK

 

I am reading these and I am confused.

https://support.shippingeasy.com/hc/en-us/articles/203981689-Shipping-alcohol-with-USPS-UPS-and-FedEx

http://homebrewacademy.com/the-ins-and-outs-of-shipping-beer/

 

It seems the only was is under the radar.

 

We need the dumb laws changed so it is legal for home brewers to ship between any states some small qty of beer to any person of legal drinking age for completion or consumption.

 

https://www.abc.virginia.gov/licenses/get-a-license/industry-licenses/shippers-license

For example this only applies as for as I can see to beer that is for sale, and you have to be a corporation too. Nothing for amateurs -with beer - but not for sale.

Carriers seem to require you have this license to ship beer.

Some states it is illegal to receive alcohol.

What a mess

 

They just need to remove all restrictions for small quantities not for sale.

 

 

 

 

 

Or simply dont tell them whats in the box. if properly packaged... no one will know except the sender and the receiver.

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47 minutes ago, Nickfixit said:

Re AHBS - what is best legal way to ship?

 

I can see drop off as the only really legal way unless you have a license to ship - but then it is not homebrew (see license requirements),  but locations are limited. If they had a dropoff office in each state that might be OK

 

I am reading these and I am confused.

https://support.shippingeasy.com/hc/en-us/articles/203981689-Shipping-alcohol-with-USPS-UPS-and-FedEx

http://homebrewacademy.com/the-ins-and-outs-of-shipping-beer/

 

It seems the only was is under the radar.

 

We need the dumb laws changed so it is legal for home brewers to ship between any states some small qty of beer to any person of legal drinking age for completion or consumption.

 

https://www.abc.virginia.gov/licenses/get-a-license/industry-licenses/shippers-license

For example this only applies as for as I can see to beer that is for sale, and you have to be a corporation too. Nothing for amateurs -with beer - but not for sale.

Carriers seem to require you have this license to ship beer.

Some states it is illegal to receive alcohol.

What a mess

 

They just need to remove all restrictions for small quantities not for sale.

 

 

 

 

There is no legal way to ship it without a license. Ive called fed ex and asked. I used to go to a local cheese and wine shop to have things shipped but the guy made it obvious he didnt care to do it and he was only liscensed for certain states. 

 

the AHA says to mark the box “sample for evaluation “. Others say to mark it “yeast samples “. I never cared when i shipped beer. Its illegal using USPS and you can get in trouble. Its also illegal to use fed ex or UPS but they’re not a government agency so Im pretty sure you get a warning before any action is taken. I really dont think they care. I just tape it up and send it on its way. If I ever get caught, then ill stop. But thousands of packages are shipped every year just for this one competiton. Its like illegally pirating music, millions do it. Maybe they enforce the big time crimals of it but 99% of us will never be reprimanded. 

 

Please note, shipping alcohol is illegal. Like ATF illegal. I am not a lawyer, i am not an expert but it is illegal. 

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1 hour ago, Creeps McLane said:

Its also illegal to use fed ex or UPS but they’re not a government agency so Im pretty sure you get a warning before any action is taken.

A buddy of mine used to do beer trades all the time.  He always shipped FedEx.  Said that he was told if anything ever broke, and started to leak, the package would get tossed in the trash, so to make sure its all sealed and well padded.... but yeah, its illegal.  However, so is speeding.

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Yep. Thanks. That is what I expected but I wanted to know if I was missing anything.

 

I think laws should either be enforced or voided. If ones that nobody cared about or enforced were removed, there would be a lot less hassle. Of course that takes lawmaker agreement, and of course they are called lawmakers not lawremovers - lol.

Enough venting.

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31 minutes ago, Creeps McLane said:

Approx 36 hours from brew day. Saturday morning ill brew and then in the late morning/afternoon ill brew again!!!

 

seraph serum saison

Paul’s pantry pale 

 

@Big Sarge this is the one!

I'm excited to hear about brew day!!

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5 hours ago, Creeps McLane said:

27 hours away. Not that im excited or anything!!!

I might actually get to brew on Sunday, since I've finally ordered some Mr. Beer recipes. Of course I missed the 20% off sale, but who cares? Now it's on to deciding which one it'll be: the WDA, Chromos, Yule, or the NWPA with El Dorado?

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