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  1. Your input is greatly appreciated and is in fact stated in the last section of the OP, however... There may be users who want to experiment with their water, perhaps just for fun or maybe to gather knowledge for advancement to partial-mash and all grain brewing There may be users who want to use distilled or RO/DI water in their brewing There may be users who can absolutely improve their beer by manipulating their water There may be users who want to learn more about water and brewing in general There may be users who want to know more about the tap water they are brewing with There are more but these are the types of users who will benefit from this thread. Water is an Advanced Brewing Technique!
  2. Absolutely, though you do make valid points. A generalization that is often true, but this thread is more about the advanced topic of building water to make your brew taste even better or the way you want it to taste.
  3. All water softeners work by exchanging minerals in water for sodium ions - in a process called ion-exchange. The salt that is added recharges the resin beads but still makes it's way into the water via the ion-exchange because the process and the machine (resin beads) aren't perfect and don't stay new forever. Obviously the volume of sodium passing into the water isn't the same volume as is present in the brine tank but it is still elevated. Perhaps in a new system or one that has been well maintained the level is insignificant. The most important thing to remember is to try and avoid using softened water that contains highly elevated levels of sodium or potassium or at least if you go down that road to get it tested to ensure the sodium (or potassium) levels are only slightly elevated. http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/interior-projects/how-to/a150/1275126/ http://www.diamondcrystalsalt.com/Water-Softening/How-does-Water-Softening-work/How-does-Water-Softening-work.aspx https://www.whirlpoolwatersolutions.com/learning-center/water-softeners/ http://watersoftenerfacts.ca/how-softeners-work/
  4. Yes, building water from scratch or adjusting existing water is an every day occurrence in brewing (as well as other industries). Being that beer is mostly water it is a significant ingredient. Learning more about the water you use will give you knowledge and insight into the why your beer tastes the way it does as well as help you advance your brewing.
  5. Well water can have chlorine if the well has been "shocked" to remove rust, however, most well water should be free of both chlorine and chloramine. One of the mentioned tests would be beneficial, if you're really interested in the makeup of your well water.
  6. Just wanted to share some information on building water from scratch. Mr. Beer kits are generally comprised of HME which when dissolved and diluted in water create a wort with a certain pH. pH is a measure of acidity or alkalinity and has a scale of 0 - 14. A pH of 7 is neutral (neither acid or alkaline). On this scale, acidity is less than 7 and alkalinity is greater then 7. When the HME is made it's pH is set during the brewing process. All-grain brewers will normally adjust their mash pH to 5.2-5.6 to maximize extract and minimize tannins and other unwanted organics. The boil pH is also adjusted separately from the mash pH. It is set at the beginning of the boil to optimize hop oil extraction (5.2) and at the end of the boil to accommodate the amount of acidity added by the yeast while fermenting - such that the final beer arrives at a pH of approximately 4.2 - 4.8 or for a sour beer 3.5 or less. Why is that important? Well if you dissolve your HME in neutral water (distilled or deionized) the HME will bring the pH of that water to approximately that which was intended by the brewery. The problem is that there are no minerals in the neutral water thus relying on the minerals from the HME to re-mineralize. However, if the HME itself was made with mineral deplete water there's not many minerals to propagate. Thus you end up with a dull tasting beer. Let's take the other end of the spectrum and say you use tap water. Tap water is normally alkaline and has a pH of 8 - 9. Mixing your HME with this water will result in a wort with a higher than optimal pH. Remember that the optimal end of boil pH is 5.2, however in these circumstances you would end up with a pH of 6 - 7, perhaps with a darker HME and if you're lucky, it may be in the high 5's. After adding the yeast you'll wind up with a beer that has a much higher than optimal pH. This is where the long conditioning times come into play and why darker HME's are more successful than lighter ones. During the room temperature conditioning period, the yeast are trying to clean up their by-products as well as to bring the pH of the beer down to where they're comfortable living, though they do tire out and eventually drop out of suspension. Darker HME's are more acidic than the lighter ones therefore the alkalinity of the tap water has less of a negative effect when making those types of kits. Let's talk about water. Types of water: Tap - City tap water is normally treated with chlorine or chloramines. Chlorine can be eliminated by boiling, setting the water out for a period of time and campden tablets which remove both chlorine and chloramine. Well - Well water can have chlorine if it has been "shocked" to remove iron or rust bacteria, however, most well water should be free from chlorine and chloramines. RO - Reverse Osmosis water has been run through a RO filter which removes most of the minerals. Before running through the RO filter this water must be run through a chlorine/chloramine filter. RO/DI - Reverse Osmosis and Deionized water has been through the RO setup and through Deionization filters which remove the remaining minerals. Deionized water is the most pure water you can obtain. Distilled - Distilled water has been run through a distillation unit and is almost as pure as DI water because certain oils can make it through the distillation process. Softened - Softened water has been run through a water softener which removes certain mineral ions (mostly calcium and magnesium) as well as metal cations by exchanging them with sodium. Softened water should be used cautiously for brewing as it may contain slightly higher sodium or potassium content which may adversely affect the beer. This is not to be confused with "soft" water which is simply water that has very little mineral content. Alkalinity vs. Hardness Alkalinity is a measure of resistance to change in the pH of the water. Alkalinity is neutralized using acid additions. Hardness is a measure of the amount of mineral content in the water. Hardness is eliminated by using a RO/DI system or RO/DI, distilled or naturally soft spring water. Saying that you have "hard" water means there's a lot of minerals in it (good and/or bad). Saying that you have "alkaline" water means that it is very resistant to change in pH. Both can adversely affect beer. High alkalinity buffers against pH change by the grain in the mash and the yeast in the fermentation. High mineral content adversely affects the flavor of the beer but also plays a smaller role in pH. Water Minerals: Chloride - provides a fullness and perceived sweetness to the beer Sulfate - provides a dryness and sharpness of flavor of the beer Magnesium - provides a sour bitterness to the beer Sodium - enhances the flavor of the beer in limited quantities Calcium - provides for yeast health during fermentation (as well as enzyme activity during mashing) Water salts: Minerals are added to water by using "water salts": Calcium Chloride Calcium Sulfate (Gypsum) Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salts) Sodium Chloride (Kosher table salt) Any of these salts are available at your LHBS or in your local pharmacy or grocery store. Acids: Acids are used to reduce or neutralize alkanity in water during the brewing process: Lactic acid - a very popular acid that adds the lactate ion to the beer Phosphoric acid - a very popular and neutral acid does not add flavor to the beer Hydrochloric acid - not very popular on the homebrew scene, requires great care and caution as it is very strong Sulfuric acid - not very popular on the homebrew scene, requires great care and caution as it is very strong Lactic and phosphoric acids are available at your LHBS. An example: Let's suppose that I want to make the Classic American Light HME and I've done it before using my tap water and it just didn't turn out. We've previously seen that this is due to high alkalinity in the tap water and not much acidity in the light colored HME. This time we have a choice, use the tap water and neutralize the alkalinity using an acid or start with distilled water. We'll start with distilled because we haven't had our tap water tested to determine it's mineral content. Following the Mr. Beer instructions we add the four cups of distilled water to our pot and we add 1/8 teaspoon of calcium chloride and an 1/8 teaspoon of calcium sulfate and continue to bring to a boil. Knowing that these minerals will enhance our perception of fullness and sweetness and increase the effect of the small amount of hops in the HME. We follow the rest of the Mr. Beer instructions using distilled water to complete the brew. Perhaps the next time we make this can of HME we'll try a 1/4 teaspoon of calcium chloride or calcium sulfate and none of the other to determine which we like best. If we had a pH meter we could even add lactic or phosphoric acid until we hit a target pH of approximately 5.2 (before fermentation). How much water salts to add: Water calculators or spreadsheets were made for this purpose and most of them center around all-grain brewing. They can be used, however, to determine how much of each salt needs to be added to reach a certain mineral level in the brewing water. They also provide different water profiles for various brewing regions (not that you should attempt to match or even brew with those). Bru N Water - a popular spreadsheet for homebrewers - https://sites.google.com/site/brunwater/home/files EZ Water - http://www.ezwatercalculator.com/ Getting your water tested: If you're going to continue to use your tap water and want to experiment with using an acid to neutralize alkalinity while building upon your current water, then you'll want to get it tested to determine it's mineral content and alkalinity. Many labs will do this for you and there are home test kits available. https://producers.wardlab.com/brewerskitorder.php You'll also want to purchase a good pH meter for testing purposes. More Information: Water is a complex subject until you "get" it - after which point it becomes mostly second nature. While this topic will probably not be that popular with Mr. Beer users and most will continue to just use their tap water, it is interesting to note that excellent beer can be produced by adding minerals back to neutral water (or even some tap waters). For those that are interested, there are many excellent resources, both books and online, concerning water and brewing: https://sites.google.com/site/brunwater/water-knowledge Thanks for reading and hope some will continue to learn more and experiment with their water. Cheers!
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