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The Leaking Tap and the Hand in the Wort

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We'll see what happens.  I had been practicing the utmost care with sanitization and had filled the keg to mark after adding the wort.  I was letting it cool down when I noticed a persistent drip from the tap washer.   I thought I had leak tested it, but I guess I didn't watch it long enough.

 

Anyway I tried rotating the tap to apply more pressure and the leak got worse.   So as a last resort I washed my hands in hot water and dipped them repeated in my pitcher of sanitizer.  I then poured out about 2/3 of the wort into sanitized pitchers and the pan I had previously used to make the wort.   Dipped my hand in and removed the tap only to find that I had the washer on backwards.   Turned the washer around, screwed it back into place and replaced the wort.  I hadn't pitched yeast yet....

 

We'll see what happens I guess.  

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The way I see it, at this point it's a race between any "wee beasties" that might have gotten introduced and the yeast. If the yeast can ferment and raise the ABV and the CO2 fast enough you might stave off infection, otherwise...

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you will more than likely be ok. you washed hands and sanitized.  back in the stone age of brewing they didn't know about bacteria or germs and still made beer.  as was mentioned once the yeast take off you should be ok. (knock wood)

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JK Rowlings's epilog to the Harry Potter series. "The Leaking Tap and the Hand in the Wort"! ;-)

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Bill, As I continue to post you'll notice I sometimes title my threads in such a way  :)

 

Well, overnight the keg went into full on Krausen..... lots of activity, lots of foam.  Hopefully the yeast will win The Battle of the Sullied Wort.

 

This recipe is Dad's Favorite Cream Ale and I really want this one to come out good, I've been looking forward to brewing it.  I have four kegs running non-stop now and by the end of July should have a decent stock of beers.  I bottled Poor Richard's Ale yesterday.  This is the brew that had a slow take off on fermentation.   If the sample I took for FG is any indication that will be a very good brew once conditioned.   Aztec Ale will be conditioned by next Wednesday.  I sampled an experimental bottle yesterday to test the carbonation.  I used half the recommended amount..... it was a little light in the carb department.  Still working on that aspect.   All in all, I'm having a blast..... so much fun.  The wife thinks I'm insane though the way I get excited about Krausen and the activity in the keg the day after I brew!

 

 

Cheers,

Johnny

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never understood what Rock Chalk Jayhawk meant? I have a sis in northern Kansas, and her best frns says it all the time. So what is the meaning of Rock Chalk and how does it pertain to the Jayhawk? please excuse my ignorance, i'm an okie....

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I couldn't tell you how many times I've had to fish out dropped items in my worts...lol. But like Zorak said, as long as you sanitized your hands, your beer should be fine. I haven't had any issues yet, but as Zorak also mentioned, "knock on wood"...

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 All in all, I'm having a blast..... so much fun.  The wife thinks I'm insane though the way I get excited about Krausen and the activity in the keg the day after I brew!

 

 

 

Despite what Rickbeer says, there is nothing wrong with perving your wort.  Just the thought that some of the earths most primative creatures are eating, pissing and farting away to make the delicious necter we call BEER, makes me smile. :)

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I got kicked out of Dirty Dans 5 times for Wort Perving.

 

But it is handy to keep a set of  sanitary gloves nearby.This is good for cook time too. 

Strong Klausen sounds like a good start for a helthy brew.

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Bill, As I continue to post you'll notice I sometimes title my threads in such a way  :)

 

Well, overnight the keg went into full on Krausen..... lots of activity, lots of foam.  Hopefully the yeast will win The Battle of the Sullied Wort.

 

This recipe is Dad's Favorite Cream Ale and I really want this one to come out good, I've been looking forward to brewing it.  I have four kegs running non-stop now and by the end of July should have a decent stock of beers.  I bottled Poor Richard's Ale yesterday.  This is the brew that had a slow take off on fermentation.   If the sample I took for FG is any indication that will be a very good brew once conditioned.   Aztec Ale will be conditioned by next Wednesday.  I sampled an experimental bottle yesterday to test the carbonation.  I used half the recommended amount..... it was a little light in the carb department.  Still working on that aspect.   All in all, I'm having a blast..... so much fun.  The wife thinks I'm insane though the way I get excited about Krausen and the activity in the keg the day after I brew!

 

 

Cheers,

Johnny

 

You are now honor-bound to name this batch Dad's Favorite Sullied Wort.

 

 :D

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never understood what Rock Chalk Jayhawk meant? I have a sis in northern Kansas, and her best frns says it all the time. So what is the meaning of Rock Chalk and how does it pertain to the Jayhawk? please excuse my ignorance, i'm an okie....

 

Hoppy,

 

There's a long story that goes with "Rock Chalk Jayhawk".... I'll give you the short version.

 

 "Rah, Rah, Jayhawk, KU" repeated three times. The rahs were later replaced by "Rock Chalk," a transposition of chalk rock, the name for the limestone outcropping found on Mount Oread, site of the Lawrence campus.

The cheer became known worldwide. Teddy Roosevelt pronounced it the greatest college chant he'd ever heard. Legend has it that troops used the chant when fighting in the Philippines in 1899, in the Boxer Rebellion in China, and in World War II. At the Olympic games in 1920, the King of Belgium asked for a typical American college yell. The assembled athletes agreed on KU's Rock Chalk and rendered it for His Majesty.

 

Today it is widely associated with the KU Men's Basketball Team and is chanted after the  singing of the Alma Mater at all sporting events.... and it goes like this....  

 

http://www.ku.edu/about/traditions/chant/

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cool! well to tell ya I hate boomer sooner song, it gives me a headache,   everytime I hear its repetitive sound, I think its designed to drive competitors insane

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I have done the same. turned out ok.

But what way, and on what side of the keg, is the washer supposed to be.

I am leak testing it with a washer on the inside and outside.

I ruined a nice little buffet I was using as a brew stand because of a leak.

Grrr

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Outside. Flat side out, beveled side in.

What kind of moron puts it on wrong, as I look into the mirror... Had it inside for a few batches.

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I've never put the washer on the inside.  The LBKs with the newer twist on/off spigot has a washer that makes it hard to put on wrong.

 

This happened with my one LBK that has the older spigot with a washer that's not as obvious at a quick glance as to which side faces the keg.   This won't happen to me again.

 

All in all the batch looks fine.  Had good Krausen and fermenting along nicely.... haven't seen any three headed dogs growing in there yet.....  time will tell.

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JK Rowlings's epilog to the Harry Potter series. "The Leaking Tap and the Hand in the Wort"! ;-)

Could also be the title of some sort of super weird fetish porn if you really think about it....

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Could also be the title of some sort of super weird fetish porn if you really think about it....

 

 

I knew home brewers were twisted, but my head never went "there"......

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I knew home brewers were twisted, but my head never went "there"......

 

In my defense, I have been a home brewer for 6 weeks.....I have been a twisted deviant for 20+ years :).  So as you can see, the brewer side of me was on the sideline taking a nap waiting for his beer while the deviant side of me took control.  

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So, with regard to the current production LBKs, I see two recurring problems:

1. Injection molding flash around the outside of the spigot mounting hole, making a tight seal against the beveled edge of the washer difficult.

2. Bulging / deformation / distortion around the inside of the spigot mounting hole, preventing the spigot mounting nut from seating evenly all the way around the opening leading to an uneven pressure on on one side of the washer seal or the other.

Of which problems I have both.

Problem 1 is minor enough that in most cases it looks like it can be solved by buffing the flash down near flat with a fingernail file, etc. and rinsing away any powdery debris before installing the spigot.

Problem 2 seems to be more serious, I have heard rumblings on the forums that it may be caused by the keg being removed from the mold while it is still too hot. If so, is this considered a manufacturing defect serious enough to warrant replacement of the LBK by Mr. Beer? I purchased my North American kit at a local BevMo!, but since I have already brewed the extract from the kit, I am not sure they will just do a swap for the LBK out of a new kit when I am done cleaning it. To be clear, I did not file down the flash before installing the spigot with the beveled washer outside facing the keg, and I am getting a small amount of leakage around the spigot opening. After I bottle my first batch, I will file down the flash properly before reassembling the spigot and leak testing the keg again.

If the spigot opening still leaks after that, will I have to pay to ship my keg to Mr Beer for a replacement, or will they just send a new one to me without a return?

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So, with regard to the current production LBKs, I see two recurring problems:

1. Injection molding flash around the outside of the spigot mounting hole, making a tight seal against the beveled edge of the washer difficult.

2. Bulging / deformation / distortion around the inside of the spigot mounting hole, preventing the spigot mounting nut from seating evenly all the way around the opening leading to an uneven pressure on on one side of the washer seal or the other.

Of which problems I have both.

Problem 1 is minor enough that in most cases it looks like it can be solved by buffing the flash down near flat with a fingernail file, etc. and rinsing away any powdery debris before installing the spigot.

Problem 2 seems to be more serious, I have heard rumblings on the forums that it may be caused by the keg being removed from the mold while it is still too hot. If so, is this considered a manufacturing defect serious enough to warrant replacement of the LBK by Mr. Beer? I purchased my North American kit at a local BevMo!, but since I have already brewed the extract from the kit, I am not sure they will just do a swap for the LBK out of a new kit when I am done cleaning it. To be clear, I did not file down the flash before installing the spigot with the beveled washer outside facing the keg, and I am getting a small amount of leakage around the spigot opening. After I bottle my first batch, I will file down the flash properly before reassembling the spigot and leak testing the keg again.

If the spigot opening still leaks after that, will I have to pay to ship my keg to Mr Beer for a replacement, or will they just send a new one to me without a return?

 

We are aware of the issues and are working with the manufacturer to have them resolved. What we will ask of you is to send us an image of the defects to customerservice@mrbeer.com. We will determine if it is a manufacturing defect. If it is a defect, we will send out a new keg at no charge. There is no need to send us back the old one. When emailing us, be sure to include where you bought the kit, the approximate date you bought it, and the image of the defect. This is so we can send the information to the manufacturer for their records.

 

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Josh:

 

To note, I was scrubbing one of the LBK (newer) that I use and found an incredible sharp edge in the hatch.

 

The edge was causing mild paper cuts. I am going to file it down a bit and finish the plastic off with 1000 ultra fine or something to reduce unwanted bacteria possibilities.

 

If you are working on molding process this is another area to consider.

 

Cheers, M

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I bottled/kegged this beer today.  FG sample tasted like I expected it to.  I'll let you know what the finished product tastes like in a month.

 

Oh.... It is no long Dad's Favorite Cream Ale, but rather Dad's Favorite Sullied Wort Ale as was recommended earlier in the thread.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Johnny D

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