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picked up a stout refill yesterday and wanted to attempt a peanut butter choc recipe. i searched through the forum for recipes and ideas. so far i like ricks idea of using a drop of lorann oil per bottle at the bottling stage but for some reason it feels like cheating (i'm being stupid i know). i always figured i would use the PB2 powdered stuff but when and how would i add it to the HME? i would use a robust LME for it and also wondered do i add hops? and if so which works with a stout base?

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almost forgot about adding cocoa powder. how much and when? also should i cold crash as well?

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Lots of questions.  Here's some answers.

 

- Easier - add LorAnn at time of CONSUMPTION.  You can get both peanut butter and chocolate flavors.  That way the consumer (get it, consumer of beer...) can add more or less to taste.  LorAnn oils are part of many recipes.  And what is that cheating?  Because powdered peanut butter isn't?  

 

- Cold crashing has nothing to do with any of your other questions.  What is the purpose of cold crashing?  Did you read my link?  How "clear" do you think a stout is going to get?  Trying to solidify trub to get more beer out of the LBK?  Then WHAT you're brewing is irrelevant.

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i guess powdered peanut butter to me is more like the real thing than the oil.

 

yes i read your link about cold crashing. my thought was (because i don't know any better) that if i add the powdered PB to the wort would cold crashing settle the particles in suspension. i would have thought that cold crashing stout wouldn't affect the color

 

be gentle :unsure:

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PB2 works great for making peanut butter beers. Keep in mind that it won't dissolve because it's basically ground peanuts with the fat removed. It will eventually settle into the sediment, but it WILL leave behind peanut flavor. Use 4-8 oz per LBK batch. Add it to your wort at flame-out. Stir it up well before transferring to your keg so you get it all into the LBK. I would also recommend adding a small amount of lactose (2 oz will do). This will slightly sweeten the beer, which will bring forward the peanut/chocolate flavors. I don't see any need for extra hops in this, but if you did add some, I would do 1/2 oz of Willamette or Mt. Hood - something neutral. Add at flame-out. 

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1 minute ago, mylesmcg said:

i guess powdered peanut butter to me is more like the real thing than the oil.

 

yes i read your link about cold crashing. my thought was (because i don't know any better) that if i add the powdered PB to the wort would cold crashing settle the particles in suspension. i would have thought that cold crashing stout wouldn't affect the color

 

be gentle :unsure:

 

You should still cold-crash this so you have a more compact sediment before bottling. The PB2 will need some help settling.

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7 minutes ago, mylesmcg said:

what about cocoa powder josh? add to the wort at flame out as well? and how much?

 

I prefer to use cocoa nibs as they will impart less bitterness than powder. 2-4 oz to the end of the boil for chocolate flavor and aroma (I let them boil for about 5 minutes before flame-out), or you can add them after the 1st week of fermentation for a more muted flavor and aroma. Use both methods for maximum effect.

 

If you use powder, use 1 Tablespoon at flameout.

 

Like I said, powder can impart an unpleasant bitterness. Nibs will not. Some people use baking chocolate, but I wouldn't recommend it due to the high fat content (this kills head retention).

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i'm sorry but peanut butter chocolate stout?? that just doesn't sound good at all! but different strokes for different folks!

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i've actually had several from local breweries here and also their variations with PB choc porters and brown ales. all very delicious.  one of the best i had was a PB choc brown ale from Gizmo in Raleigh, NC. luckily this place is down the street from me

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I love peanut butter porters/stouts, personally. There's a local brewery here in Tucson (Sentinel Peak Brewing) that makes one called Peanut Butter Cup Porter seasonally (usually in the fall), and it's pretty amazing. I've made pretty good batches, too. In fact, I should order some more PB2 soon....

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2 hours ago, HoppySmile! said:

i'm sorry but peanut butter chocolate stout?? that just doesn't sound good at all! but different strokes for different folks!

So what you're saying is that if someone poured a pint of this for you, YOU would turn it down?!?  The man who pours whiskey on his Froot Loops?!?  I call BULL SQUIRT, sir... I call bull squirt!  ;)

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1 hour ago, mylesmcg said:

i've actually had several from local breweries here and also their variations with PB choc porters and brown ales. all very delicious.  one of the best i had was a PB choc brown ale from Gizmo in Raleigh, NC. luckily this place is down the street from me

I like these as well, and it has made my "To Brew" list.  There is just something appealing about a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup with an ABV attached to it!  :)

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11 hours ago, AnthonyC said:

So what you're saying is that if someone poured a pint of this for you, YOU would turn it down?!?  The man who pours whiskey on his Froot Loops?!?  I call BULL SQUIRT, sir... I call bull squirt!  ;)

I pour whiskey on my fruit loops?

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5 minutes ago, HoppySmile! said:

I pour whiskey on my fruit loops?

Smurfberry Crunch?  

Man, does anyone even remember those??

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3 minutes ago, AnthonyC said:

Smurfberry Crunch?  

Man, does anyone even remember those??

I berry remember that one

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2 minutes ago, HoppySmile! said:

I berry remember that one

They were awesome!  I could do some work on a box of those right now!

Okay I'm thread jacking...  sorry o.p.

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2 hours ago, HoppySmile! said:

i'm a loyal captain crunch fan, basically all I ever ate

 

The roof of your mouth must be heavily calloused by now. :lol:

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4 hours ago, HoppySmile! said:

i'm a loyal captain crunch fan, basically all I ever ate

Which reminds me of a roommate that I had in college who would eat Cap'n Crunch straight out of the box while drinking beer.  Not a combination that many others wanted to try ...

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30 minutes ago, MichaelL said:

Which reminds me of a roommate that I had in college who would eat Cap'n Crunch straight out of the box while drinking beer.  Not a combination that many others wanted to try ...

New recipe idea:  cerialiously cap 'n crunch!  :)

 

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OK so I read lots of ideas online about doing a peanut butter cup Porter.  A person tried and had good results with Reese's cereal.  So for Sh and giggles I am trying it.  I did the cereal along with jiff chocolate peanut butter powder.  It tasted good going into the LBK.  I bottle I about a week so I will let people know how it goes.

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On 5/1/2016 at 6:33 PM, WillR said:

OK so I read lots of ideas online about doing a peanut butter cup Porter.  A person tried and had good results with Reese's cereal.  So for Sh and giggles I am trying it.  I did the cereal along with jiff chocolate peanut butter powder.  It tasted good going into the LBK.  I bottle I about a week so I will let people know how it goes.

 

That's actually a very good idea!

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@MRB Josh R do i need to put the nibs in a muslin bag for the boil or add as is? thinking of doing this at the weekend and just want to make sure i have all the equipment i need. thanks

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After reading his thread, I saw a peanut butter milk stout on the shelf at the liquor store and had to try it. It's by Mustang Brewing Company, an Oklahoma local. The PB extract taste was a little weird in my opinion, but interesting nonetheless!

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34 minutes ago, mylesmcg said:

@MRB Josh R do i need to put the nibs in a muslin bag for the boil or add as is? thinking of doing this at the weekend and just want to make sure i have all the equipment i need. thanks

 

I just add them in by themselves. They will float, at first, but they will eventually precipitate. A hop sack will work, too, but I just find them unnecessary for nibs unless they've been milled to a finer grain.

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Listermann's in Cincinnati (LHBS and brewery) makes a Nut Case peanut butter porter that is really something. Good, not really something bad. I may get that into the queue so I'm ready for Halloween. 

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DuClaws sweet baby jesus was my first taste of this style. I brewed up a batch with the porter HME, 1/3 cup of cocoa powder, 2/3 cup PB2, a cup of brown sugar and dropped in 1 1/2 cups of reeses cereal after 1 week fermenting. (In a sack, or course!)  3 weeks total in the LBK. Turned out pretty good, and my nephew took some with him when he went on a camping trip. Said he got good reviews from his friends. The wife REALLY liked it, but I am thinking of using the st patricks stout as the base next time, and ditching the sugar for a smooth LME....might also use the nibs rather than the powder.....always tweeking, aren't we?!!

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I'm going to try out a Chocolate Peanut Butter Stout in a few weeks to coordinate having ready by Thanksgiving for a dessert beer.  Was just thinking of the Irish Stout Deluxe refill +  1/2 cup unsweetened cocoa powder and then just adding 5 ml of Peanut Butter brewer's extract.  Expecting a pretty strong, bitter -- but tasty -- beer.  

 

Kevin

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3 hours ago, Kevin Caffrey said:

I'm going to try out a Chocolate Peanut Butter Stout in a few weeks to coordinate having ready by Thanksgiving for a dessert beer.  Was just thinking of the Irish Stout Deluxe refill +  1/2 cup unsweetened cocoa powder and then just adding 5 ml of Peanut Butter brewer's extract.  Expecting a pretty strong, bitter -- but tasty -- beer.  

 

Kevin

 

There's also a product called "PB2" that works very well for peanut butter porters. It's basically peanut butter that has had the oils and fats removed and turned to a powder. It's great stuff for brewing PB Porters/Stouts. 

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Here's a pic of my Peanut Butter Brown Ale -- simply added 5ml to a 1/2 litter PET bottle of PB Brewer's Extract to the Churchill's Brown Ale recipe.  Very tasty -- bitter, but not overwhelmingly so, with a nice kick of hazelnut/roasted barley.

 

Kevin

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peanut butter porter? I dunno, just the thought scares me? next you know it'll be peanut butter and jelly

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2 hours ago, HoppySmile! said:

peanut butter porter? I dunno, just the thought scares me? next you know it'll be peanut butter and jelly

 

This just gave me the greatest idea...

 

50% Peanut butter porter and 50% Martinelli's Sparkling Grape Juice. I'm going to try it. I will report back with my findings...

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21 hours ago, MRB Josh R said:

 

This just gave me the greatest idea...

 

50% Peanut butter porter and 50% Martinelli's Sparkling Grape Juice. I'm going to try it. I will report back with my findings...

you are joking right???

 

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21 hours ago, MRB Josh R said:

 

This just gave me the greatest idea...

 

50% Peanut butter porter and 50% Martinelli's Sparkling Grape Juice. I'm going to try it. I will report back with my findings...

well at least if its successful, u can get royalties from your employer, and send  me a cple of cases while ur at it!!!:D

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8 minutes ago, BrianBrew said:

Oddside Ales already has a PBJ beer.

SSSSShhhhhh!!!   i'm trying to get free beer here!, maybe josh can convince tim to send all the extra cases he has under his desk too!

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On 8/30/2016 at 5:56 AM, HoppySmile! said:

you are joking right???

 

 

Not at all. :)

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3 hours ago, MRB Josh R said:

 

Not at all. :)

well if u do come up with one, I hope it's a success, however, I probably wont buy it, any fruit beer stirs my taste buds, but peanut butter, milk stout chocolate coffee stout, well I'm gonna stick to tradition, only drink it when i'm drunk, just like sushi, I eat it when i'm wasted so my mind is clear knowing i'm tasting stuff that would normally make me vomit

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