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No Hops, no HME

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So what I would I get if I steeped some grains and then added 4 or 5 packs of LME, say Robust, and then the yeast to my LBK? No hops added at any time. I like low IBU, less than 25. Would the brew be drinkable? Has anyone just used the LME packs alone and not any HME? An all malt brew???

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Interesting.  I'm not sure if that would satisfy Reinheitsgebot, but really, that only limits what you can put in your beer, not what you leave out.? ;)

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I've only done this with recipes outside of Mr. Beer.  So you're looking at 4-5lbs of lme and nothing else...  hmmm.  I would think that you'd at least want to steep some grains in that.  That's what I would do b/c I wouldn't want to waste all that $ that I spent on LME & yeast.  

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AnthonyC,  I mean 4 or 5 packs of LME, wouldn't that be ~ 2 to 2.5 lbs?  I am thinking of substituting the MRB HME can with the weight equivalent of their LME packs, and maybe steeping some grains, and using no hops. I guess it would be 0 IBU and not really “beer” as the PTB declare.

Friends gave me a SN Pale Ale one time and said it was not too hoppy, but it was way too much for me. Anyway, just wondering if anyone had tried this. If not, I’ll try it later on when I get enough reserves built up and can waste a batch.

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10 minutes ago, Snuffy said:

AnthonyC,  I mean 4 or 5 packs of LME, wouldn't that be ~ 2 to 2.5 lbs?  I am thinking of substituting the MRB HME can with the weight equivalent of their LME packs, and maybe steeping some grains, and using no hops. I guess it would be 0 IBU and not really “beer” as the PTB declare.

Friends gave me a SN Pale Ale one time and said it was not too hoppy, but it was way too much for me. Anyway, just wondering if anyone had tried this. If not, I’ll try it later on when I get enough reserves built up and can waste a batch.

Honestly Snuff, I can't remember if Mr. Beer Lme's are a pound or half a pound.  You'd have to look that up.  

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2 hours ago, AnthonyC said:

Honestly Snuff, I can't remember if Mr. Beer Lme's are a pound or half a pound.  You'd have to look that up.  

Beer with no hope, probably is bland and hops act like a preservative so it might go off.  But if you don't like hops you could try these gruit ales.

http://www.gruitale.com/recipes_en.htm

 

I have not tried this. I like some hops in my beer but not a gross amount.

 

The Mr B LME/DME are around 1/2 lb and add approx 1% ABV each pack.

 

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55 minutes ago, Nickfixit said:

Beer with no hope, probably is bland and hops act like a preservative so it might go off.  But if you don't like hops you could try these gruit ales.

http://www.gruitale.com/recipes_en.htm

 

I have not tried this. I like some hops in my beer but not a gross amount.

 

The Mr B LME/DME are around 1/2 lb and add approx 1% ABV each pack.

 

Yuck...., yarrow, licorice, chicory...no thanks. I have been reading more and maybe I need to look at recipes for stouts, porters, marzens, brown ales, etc. 

 

I have seen where several MRB recipes are 13 IBU.

 

 

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Hops offset the sweetness of the malt and malt offsets the bitterness of hops. That's like PB with no J or pizza with no BBQ sauce or salad with no grapes or coffee with no caramel sauce or a bath with no bubbles or a visit to the throne with no TP or a bird with no song. Basically I would not make that beer nor would I drink it. Porters and stouts and kolsch and other non hoppy beers all have a bittering hop addition for a reason. It's like hip with no hop or stir fry with no chow mien noodles or a fire with no flame or salt without pepper or rob base with no dj EZ rock or karaoke with no lyric monitor. You need that shiz. That's like rain on your wedding day, it's the good advise that you just can't take, it's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife, it's meeting the man of your dreams and then meeting his beautiful wife

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No hops is not beer.  Using just Mr. Beer LME packs would be quite expensive too.

 

I suggest you look at the darker brews as you suggested.

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Snuffy,

 

I don't like hoppy beers either.  I use Beersmith to create all of my recipes, the mobile app is relatively cheap and worth the investment.  You need some hops in your beer or the beer would just be terrible. 

 

Below is a very simple Cream Ale recipe with about 16 IBUs that is pretty good, not hoppy at all.

 

Cream Ale 2 gallon recipe

 

4oz          Flaked Corn

4oz          Pale Malt (2 row) crushed

3lb           Pale Liquid Malt Extract

.2oz         Cluster Hops

.2oz         Liberty Hops

1pkg        Safale American US-05

 

 

1.  Put 2 gallons of water in a pot and bring to 150 to 160 degrees.  Remove from heat and keep covered.

2.  Put the 4oz of flaked corn (maize) and Pale (2 row) malt into a muslin bag and place in the water to steep, for 30 minutes.  Cover the pot and every 10 minutes remove the lid and dunk the bag up and down as you would a tea bag.

3.  After 30 minutes, remove the grains and dispose of them.  You can add the LME at this time, make sure it is off the heat.  And bring the resulting wort to a boil.

4.  As the boil begins, set a timer for 30 minutes and add the .2oz of Cluster Hops.  Watch for boil overs at this point.

5.  After 30 minutes, add the .2oz of Liberty Hops and set the timer for another 30 minutes.

6.  After this 30 minute interval (60 minutes total) remove the pot, place a santized lid on the pot and place it in a sink filled with cold water and ice to cool the wort to about 80 degrees.

7.  Transfer the wort to your fermentation vessel and top off with cold water to 2 gallons.

8.  Check the temperature, if above 65 degrees, put in refrigerator to cool until it reaches 65 degrees.

9.  Aeriate and pitch yeast, ferment for 3 weeks and bottle.

10.  Condition for 4 weeks and enjoy

 

Good Luck with this one.

 

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