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on 1/12/18 i began my brewing journey. i did a lot of reading here and another forum before i started the procedure. J A from the other forum sent me here to get equipment specific info. so far i have no questions. my initial fermentation has subsided and i'm waiting patiently for feb 2nd to bottle my brew. my lbk has been kept at 64-66 f so far thanks to the cold temps we're having in se loosiana. one of my favorite commercial ales is sam smith's nut brown ale and i'm hoping to end up with something close. 

so hello to my fellow brewers, more to come from me as time goes on.

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thanks! i'm curious if anyone else here has brewed the nut brown ale from the kit. any kit specific info would be welcome. 

yeah i feel comfortable so far. seems brewing is a little like growing mushrooms and i was good at that with the sterile technique and following procedure.

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I've made it "as is" and am just waiting a couple more weeks to start drinking it.  I had the trub bottle several weeks ago and although tasty, it needed just a bit more conditioning time.

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did you bottle at 3 weeks? that's my plan so far. then 4 weeks for bottle conditioning. after that i'll put a bottle in the fridge for a day or so to taste and go from there. does this sound like the plan?

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i am going to start getting supplies ready for my next brew. i'm looking at us-05 yeast to ferment. i see the small packs are 11.5 g. is this the amount needed for a 2 gal. brew? there are larger sizes available. if i were to buy more than i can use at one time how should it be stored?

edit:  i plan to brew brown ales in the future until i hit my goal of the sam smith ale.

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11.5 grams is the size for a 5 gallon batch.  You can use it for a 2 gallon batch, but it's twice what is needed.  

 

To my knowledge, the only other size is 500 grams, that's for a commercial brewer.

 

No, you cannot store dry yeast for another time.  The risk of contamination, as well as yeast cells dying, is too high.  "Use it or lose it".

 

If you're making a British Brown Ale,  you should use S-04 instead of S-05.  

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2 hours ago, cheech226 said:

did you bottle at 3 weeks? that's my plan so far. then 4 weeks for bottle conditioning. after that i'll put a bottle in the fridge for a day or so to taste and go from there. does this sound like the plan?

 

Yep, bottled at three weeks then four weeks conditioning.  It wasn't quite ready so I'm giving it another few weeks.

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Welcome @cheech226!

 

I noticed that the yeast packet under the lid the Churchill extract I used to make a Calavara Chile stout said “Churchill Yeast”.  Is this somehow different than the standard Mr. Beer yeast?

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34 minutes ago, KaijuBrew said:

Welcome @cheech226!

 

I noticed that the yeast packet under the lid the Churchill extract I used to make a Calavara Chile stout said “Churchill Yeast”.  Is this somehow different than the standard Mr. Beer yeast?

 

From what I understand from the guys at Coopers, it is an English-style yeast and is different than the basic yeasts than come with the other cans (with the exception of the Bavarian Weissbier, which also uses it's own yeast). It will enhance the maltiness of the beer, while the regular Coopers yeast is more neutral (but does have some fruity esters).

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9 hours ago, cheech226 said:

on 1/12/18 i began my brewing journey. i did a lot of reading here and another forum before i started the procedure. J A from the other forum sent me here to get equipment specific info. so far i have no questions. my initial fermentation has subsided and i'm waiting patiently for feb 2nd to bottle my brew. my lbk has been kept at 64-66 f so far thanks to the cold temps we're having in se loosiana. one of my favorite commercial ales is sam smith's nut brown ale and i'm hoping to end up with something close. 

so hello to my fellow brewers, more to come from me as time goes on.

 

Welcome and keep reading, there is a huge wealth of information here.

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On my second Churchill nut brown - brewed it as is from the "kit". Came out exactly as advertised - including the color. Easy to drink, less bitter than expected, but very good. 

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My Churchill is 3 weeks in the LBK, I'm planning on bottle on Friday. I did use S-04, but no other alterations. I'm looking forward to it. 

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i'm glad to get some input from brewers of this ale. i've bought a stick-on thermometer to affix to my lbk. it's reading 64f. is this ok? i know it's on the low side of the temps for my yeast.

 

edit: i used the yeast that came with the kit.

 

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22 minutes ago, Shrike said:

 

If you brew it, let us know how it turns out, please.

oh i'm going to make it for my next brew. i'll surely keep y'all posted. i have 2 weeks left on my kit brew i'm dong now, then my lbk will be free.

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Cheech - I brew on the cooler side too. Beers have been fermenting just fine, just give it the full three weeks, even if the hydrometer says it is done. In truth, my last few beers have been over three weeks by a few days,  just because I can't find time to bottle, and again, they are fine.

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On 1/17/2018 at 3:58 PM, MRB Josh R said:

 

From what I understand from the guys at Coopers, it is an English-style yeast and is different than the basic yeasts than come with the other cans (with the exception of the Bavarian Weissbier, which also uses it's own yeast). It will enhance the maltiness of the beer, while the regular Coopers yeast is more neutral (but does have some fruity esters).

 

Thanks @MRB Josh R!  Interesting that the yeast can make such a difference.

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here i am 1 week into my ale. everything seems to be going fine. i shined a flashlite into my lbk but couldn't see any activity. the outside of it is kinda dirty from a bit of foam  that was produced during initial fermentation that bubbled through the lid so it's hard to see clearly inside. i do have a layer of trub on the bottom of my tilted lbk. no worries. waiting for feb 2nd to bottle. time is going slow!

 

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50 minutes ago, cheech226 said:

here i am 1 week into my ale. everything seems to be going fine. i shined a flashlite into my lbk but couldn't see any activity. the outside of it is kinda dirty from a bit of foam  that was produced during initial fermentation that bubbled through the lid so it's hard to see clearly inside. i do have a layer of trub on the bottom of my tilted lbk. no worries. waiting for feb 2nd to bottle. time is going slow!

 

If the outside is dirty from an overflow, I would clean it off if only because stuff likes to grow on it which could be an isdue at bottlong time.

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I had a Churchill's last night (brewed straight up with one addition, 4oz carapils) and it was quite tasty.  As can be expected with some of the MRB extracts, it's darker than you might expect, but as Nut Brown Ales go it's got the flavor right. I'll do this one straight up again.

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the 3 weeks are up! before i put the lbk into the fridge to cold crash i took a hydrometer reading and tasted the sample. it tastes Good! the hydrometer read ~1.015. i'll bottle on monday and on tuesday i'll brew the sam smith nut brown ale. i'm a very happy brewer

so far.

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3 hours ago, cheech226 said:

 i'm a very happy camper so far.

 

I'm sorry, this forum is for Mr. Beer.  Are you looking for the Mr. Winnebago forum?

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1 hour ago, SilverBrewerWI said:

 

I'm sorry, this forum is for Mr. Beer.  Are you looking for the Mr. Winnebago forum?

haha, edited. camping brewer maybe?  ;-)

really tho...i was very happy with the taste of my sample. can't wait for the bubbles!

 

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2 minutes ago, cheech226 said:

haha, edited. camping brewer maybe?  ;-)

really tho...i was very happy with the taste of my sample. can't wait for the bubbles!

 

 

Congratulations, you made beer.....yay.....you will like it better than what you used to buy

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12 hours ago, SilverBrewerWI said:

 

Congratulations, you made beer.....yay.....you will like it better than what you used to buy

Yep!  I gotta admit that I get a bit of a thrill when I have a beer out at a pub or restaurant and I realize "Hey, I've made tastier beer than this!"  :)

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i bottled today after a 3 day cold crash at about 35f. the trub was solid and the last bottle had no visible sediment. the last bottle was only about 2/3 full but i had already added the 2 carbonation drops. i hope it doesn't  pop. i did remove all the rings from the caps and i'm glad i did.  before cleaning, i did a test fit with a cap on one bottle with the ring. after i removed the cap to sanitize,  the ring remained and that bottle leaked while shaking the cleaner solution. i removed the ring before filling the bottle with the last of the ale in the keg. now the wait......

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i brewed the sam smith nut brown ale recipe yesterday. everything seems fine so far.  my og was a little higher than the specs, it was 1.051. i'm keeping the lbk in the low 60's for the 3 weeks. i need a time machine......

my bottles of churchill have firmed up nicely and there's a bit of trub on the bottoms from the sugar i guess.

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1 hour ago, Timelordjason said:

I hae one of these being shipped now 
Curious on what the the best conditioning time you guys have experienced.

 

I tried one six weeks after bottling and it wasn't quite ready.  I had another two weeks after that and it was good to go.

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i put my trub bottle in the fridge 2 days ago. it was only about 2/3 full and had only been in the bottle a little over two weeks. the real (yeah..) reason i wanted to taste it was to see how carbonated it was. the drops worked well. the ale had a sharp taste i'm gonna put to not enough conditioning. i'll be bottling my sam smith nut brown ale on friday and i'm glad to see the carb drops worked ok. i'll use them on that batch

i just couldn't wait to try the churchill nut brown from the kit. pretty good, a little extra fizzy, but not ready. may have been oxidized too from all the head room in the bottle. i plan to do the ss nut brown ale again for my next brew with a few tweaks. the recipe is in an earlier post in this thread. all in all i'm pleased with mr beer, but i doubt i'll brew one of their kits again.

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Did you pour in such a way that none of the trub got stirred up and ended up in the glass?

 

2 weeks of carbonating and conditioning is totally inadequate, you drank green beer.

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i tried a bottle of churchill after 4 weeks 3 days. pretty darn good! still has a bit of that sharpness. i'll wait until 6 weeks and try again

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14 minutes ago, cheech226 said:

i tried a bottle of churchill after 4 weeks 3 days. pretty darn good! still has a bit of that sharpness. i'll wait until 6 weeks and try again

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My first taste of Churchill's was after about 4 or 5 weeks in the bottle. I got that "sharp" taste too. I tasted a bottle a week later, much better. The sharpness was reduced and the roastiness was coming through nicely. I have one in fridge right now, about 6 or 7 weeks in the bottle. I may taste it tonight. I also found that, as you would expect, 

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I have a churchill in week 2 fermentation right now. 
I am torn between just letting it alone or adding some nuts for week 3.
i have some hickory nuts and was just going to crush them and throw them in.
For some reason I feel i probably shouldn't though.
I Have no idea what the effect of adding nuts in week 3 would do and i have no idea what the flavor of hickory nut would do as far as flavor. 

I am telling you guys it will be very very hard for me not to experiment with brews.

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I don't think a Churchill's needs nuts. There are enough nuts brewing it.

If I was going to put anything in it I would put lactose.

It will round off that sharp taste. Since it does not ferment, you can put that in any time I think.

 

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14 hours ago, Timelordjason said:

I was afraid it may be an overload so Ill just let it be then.

If you don't like that sharp taste, lactose will help.

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i tried another bottle today. 2 days shy of 8 weeks. the sharpness is gone and i find it quite good. success!!!

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On 3/24/2018 at 6:52 PM, Timelordjason said:

I was afraid it may be an overload so Ill just let it be then.

i'm not sure of how experienced you are as a brewer. my churchill was my first brew. i think it would be best left alone. get some more complex brews under your belt and then have at it! 

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my first batch turned out great! i was looking at the mr beer store and i see the churchill nut brown ale is on sale for only $10. i had to get one! 

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i even got FREE usps priority shipping!! it will arrive saturday and i will brew it right up. i should have bought 2.

 just went back to check and sure enough the free shipping option had disappeared from the list. oh well i should have struck hard while the iron was hot. the ale is still on sale tho. i'm guessing it was a mistake. there was free shipping on orders over $25 for father's day sale. someone goofed, i did contact mr beer to thank them for the nice present.

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received my churchill today as expected. brewed it and all went well. i plan to dry hop it after 2 week in the lbk. i'll be using 1/2 oz of styrian goldings.

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